Hello, I feel I need to introduce myself
My name is Spike
I joined Lurps in October 1999. Since then I have been a member every year despite the many and myriad problems that LURPS has faced, despite the many problems that I have had with the way that the society has been run and the way it's been forced to be run by others.
I was President during one of the more tumultuous times in the societies history where large groups of the society didn't agree with other large groups which caused "among other things" a mass walk out of membership and the creation of Far Shores,
I was LARP rep twice for two years, during which time I instituted a lot of the safety rules that are now taken for granted in an effort to prevent people from walking off adventures with a Limp. I invited Yellow Sign to run their first event in a LURPS slot. I memorably reffed every saturday adventure for a term when other refs simply couldn't be found to ref Stormhaven.
I turned LARP attendance around from regular turnouts of about 6 to regular turnouts of 15+. I arranged regular visits from weapons and armour manufacturers to make sure that LURPS had access to the best possible equipment from the best possible sources without having to pay event admission prices as well.
Five years ago now, Madfae came to me and said "Spike I want to bring VIP back to Lancaster," some readers will remember those early days of meeting in County bar with half a dozen players if we were lucky. Now, with the contributions of many people reading, the player base numbers 20+ regular players, we have run an event that we took LURPS to, and despite some hiccups the system continues to thrive and many people have come to LURPS just to play VIP, some people even returning to LURPS after extended absence.
Although not the greatest table-top ref in the world, (the person I think of as the best knows who they are) I have regularly run games that I hope have been at least memorable and enjoyable. Star Wars, Fading Suns, various ongoing Legend of the 5 rings campaigns and a 7th sea campaign that saw me take up to 15 players due to no-one else being willing to take late comers. Now I have an ongoing Lord of the Rings campaign that I am extremely proud of and I sincerely hope that it goes the distance.
I say these things, not to show off or boast. I don't say these things to make other people feel as though I'm trying to shame them. I'm simply giving some context to where I'm coming from and who I am when I say this.
I love LURPS
I really do, I have poured so much (literal) blood, sweat and tears into the society that it might even cause some people to look at me funny.
But I really do love it. I love meeting new role-players, I love introducing people to my hobby. I love the diversity of the society. I love that we have a place for everyone as we are a society of inclusion as anyone can be a role-player. I would do anything for any member of that society (stopping short of actual crime of course) and no fair maiden has a stauncher defender than LURPS has in me.
I love LURPS as a society of, at best friends but at worst people who want to gather together to enjoy the same things and to be themselves, a place where people can be blow off steam, tell jokes and otherwise escape from the harsh and cold reality around them. Yes we have our faults, (a tendency towards arrogance being the most obvious) but I truly believe that when the chips are down that we are there for each other.
Today this view was shattered for me.
I'm struggling to put this into words and even now I don't want to say anything that might upset or hurt people that are very close to my heart.
Today it was brought to my attention that people in the exec were investigating (this may be a strong term but I am endeavouring to be politically correct) certain allegations that had been made about me and my overly aggressive attitudes towards people. Again I'm using big words to describe what to many people may seem a small thing but to me is something huge. (I'm also using those words to avoid confusion and to be PC).
Now the exec did their jobs well and perfectly and let me say that for the record just so that I am PERFECTLY CLEAR. I cannot fault any of the people involved as to how they behaved or what they did and I would like to take this opportunity to praise as well as thank them for their proffesionalism and the speed with which this was sorted out.
These allegations turned out to be as a result of people taking a reccuring joke of mine seriously and coupling it with misunderstanding my asking a question of a ref.
A joke of mine that I made several times while expressing how much I was looking forward to today and how overjoyed I was to be able to turn up to more lives this year as a standard player/monster rather than a ref.
A question that I asked of the ref to clarify the stats of the monster that I was about to be playing because I had misheard and wanted to be sure I was getting it right.
I cannot tell you how upset I am to discover that people would rather complain about this to someone official rather than calling me on it, or that a joke. A JOKE is taken so seriously that it warrents complaint. I am surely not inscrutable enough that people think I would be serious when I describe looking forward to beating the crap out of the members of a society that I love. People joke about wanting to pumch someone, leather someone, hit them with swords, smash their faces in, rape or even kill someone and those jokes are not taken seriously when some of those topics are REALLY serious or even offensive to many people.
I cannot tell you how upset I am that in society of friends we have to make a formal complaint rather than saying something like
"Spike, that joke was out of line and was quite upsetting,"
or
"Surely you don't mean that,"
or
"Dude, that's not like you are you OK?"
and as for asking a clarification from a ref. How else are you supposed to define what's going on if you misheard. Do I leave it and get the stats wrong, therefore potentially spoiling the adventure for EVERYONE concerned, ESPECIALLY players, or should I ask a question and get the facts right?
which is the right answer.
I am an ongoing system ref and tabletop ref as well as a roleplayer. Sometimes these situations require a display of aggression. The most common being that I am playing a character/monster that is quite aggressive. I am well aware that I am a big guy with a loud voice and (when I put my mind to it) a powerful presence. This is a tool that I as well as other refs have used to get a point accross and I am by no means alone in using these tools to get the job done. Does this mean that I am going to get complained about when I do this?
How about reffing situations when I see someone cheating or being unsafe. SOmetimes waiting until afterwards and getting the LARP ref to sort it out doesn't cut it. What if they hurt someone or themselves in the meantime or spoil several peoples game while the LARP rep is elsewhere. Both of these are situations that have come up, and both do sometimes need a loud voice to stop the situation developing further ie
"TIME STOP, THERE IS A CAR COMING, GET OFF THE ROAD,"
or
"TIME STOP, THAT IS UNSAFE, STOP IT,"
and
"TIME STOP< PERSON A WE NEED YOU OVER HERE NOW! TRADE WTIH ANOTHER MONSTER, now that was against the rules so why are you doing it?"
In the past, refs have been responsible for the facilities that they use, including rooms for tabletop and booked for live events so people need to be told off for leaving them in a state so this is another time where a display of aggression is appropriate when all else has failed to drive the message home. Fortunately the LARP reps have taken the responsibility for that one now so I don't ned to worry about it anymore, but in the past if the room had been left a tip it would have been the system refs that got it in the neck.
But it would seem that these things are now going to get me complained about. In a society of friends I must watch what I say. I can't afford to make jokes any more because people might take them seriously and complain about me. I can't afford to vent in the society for fear that people might take it seriously. I must guard myself. Guard my sense of humour and my opiinions in case omeone might get offended and complain.
It's all very well saying that I won't let this happen in the cold light of day. It's all very well saying "I will not change my sense of humour" or "I'm not going to stop telling people that they are wrong when I think that they are wrong," but secretly, deep down, I will.
Because it's not just the words that I say that will get me in to trouble and this is due to this immortal line.
"It's not what you said, it's how you said it,"
One mans tone of anger is another mans reasonable voice. One persons tone of joking is another person tone of sleaze or slime.
And you can't argue it, short of saying, "that's not what I meant," to which the responce is "Well that's what it sounded like and I want an apology,"
Words cannot express how upset I am over this. It literally crippled me. I nearly gave away my Live kit and donated my RPG books to the library. I nearly quit VIP and knocked the Lord of the Rings grip on the head. THis is not an exageration so please don't think I'm being melodramatic. The only reason that I didn't it because Madfae spent a significant period of time talking me down from that course of action.
That was how much this upset me.
I felt like I couldn't face people, I hid from them.
ME
I HID FROM THE MEMBERSHIP OF LURPS.
Because somethings that I had said while I assumed that I was amongst friends were taken in a non-friendly manner and suddenly I couldn't look people in the eye any more.
And if people don't feel that they can come and say to me "that Joke was innappropriate," or find me over intimidating, then what business do I have running activities or taking part in a society that sees me in this way.
I don't know who this person or persons were as (correctly) anonymity is used but isn't anyone else dissappointed that LURPS has to have a stringent complaints procedure?
I don't have much else to say but a couple of disclaimers.
1) Yes, I had a row with the LARP reps today. This was due to a completely SEPERATE incident and that has since been resolved. But for the record I want to say that that incident was COMPLETELY unrelated to what I am talking about here. Anyone who thinks or says that the two are connected is wrong.
2) I would like to take this opportnity to once again thank Madfae, Lentil and Felix (all online references) for their sensitivity, understanding and support over this matter. I would especially like to thank Madfae for preventing me from doing something that I would have later regretted.
3) I hope that the majority of people who are reading this agree with me. I am confident that what I am talking about here, is the actions of a couple of people and I do not wish to tarnish everyone with the same brush and that I am largely preaching to the converted.
4) THis post will not be cut, removed or edited so don't bother asking. I want this post to be read by as many people as possible.
Despite all of this I find that I still love this society. Despite the turmoil and the upset I still love it and will continue to work towatrds making it better.
But this hurts, it really does and it has changed LURPS for me for the worst and although I hope I will regain my original feelings towards it, for now the vision is somewhat tarnished.
Spike
Signing off
My name is Spike
I joined Lurps in October 1999. Since then I have been a member every year despite the many and myriad problems that LURPS has faced, despite the many problems that I have had with the way that the society has been run and the way it's been forced to be run by others.
I was President during one of the more tumultuous times in the societies history where large groups of the society didn't agree with other large groups which caused "among other things" a mass walk out of membership and the creation of Far Shores,
I was LARP rep twice for two years, during which time I instituted a lot of the safety rules that are now taken for granted in an effort to prevent people from walking off adventures with a Limp. I invited Yellow Sign to run their first event in a LURPS slot. I memorably reffed every saturday adventure for a term when other refs simply couldn't be found to ref Stormhaven.
I turned LARP attendance around from regular turnouts of about 6 to regular turnouts of 15+. I arranged regular visits from weapons and armour manufacturers to make sure that LURPS had access to the best possible equipment from the best possible sources without having to pay event admission prices as well.
Five years ago now, Madfae came to me and said "Spike I want to bring VIP back to Lancaster," some readers will remember those early days of meeting in County bar with half a dozen players if we were lucky. Now, with the contributions of many people reading, the player base numbers 20+ regular players, we have run an event that we took LURPS to, and despite some hiccups the system continues to thrive and many people have come to LURPS just to play VIP, some people even returning to LURPS after extended absence.
Although not the greatest table-top ref in the world, (the person I think of as the best knows who they are) I have regularly run games that I hope have been at least memorable and enjoyable. Star Wars, Fading Suns, various ongoing Legend of the 5 rings campaigns and a 7th sea campaign that saw me take up to 15 players due to no-one else being willing to take late comers. Now I have an ongoing Lord of the Rings campaign that I am extremely proud of and I sincerely hope that it goes the distance.
I say these things, not to show off or boast. I don't say these things to make other people feel as though I'm trying to shame them. I'm simply giving some context to where I'm coming from and who I am when I say this.
I love LURPS
I really do, I have poured so much (literal) blood, sweat and tears into the society that it might even cause some people to look at me funny.
But I really do love it. I love meeting new role-players, I love introducing people to my hobby. I love the diversity of the society. I love that we have a place for everyone as we are a society of inclusion as anyone can be a role-player. I would do anything for any member of that society (stopping short of actual crime of course) and no fair maiden has a stauncher defender than LURPS has in me.
I love LURPS as a society of, at best friends but at worst people who want to gather together to enjoy the same things and to be themselves, a place where people can be blow off steam, tell jokes and otherwise escape from the harsh and cold reality around them. Yes we have our faults, (a tendency towards arrogance being the most obvious) but I truly believe that when the chips are down that we are there for each other.
Today this view was shattered for me.
I'm struggling to put this into words and even now I don't want to say anything that might upset or hurt people that are very close to my heart.
Today it was brought to my attention that people in the exec were investigating (this may be a strong term but I am endeavouring to be politically correct) certain allegations that had been made about me and my overly aggressive attitudes towards people. Again I'm using big words to describe what to many people may seem a small thing but to me is something huge. (I'm also using those words to avoid confusion and to be PC).
Now the exec did their jobs well and perfectly and let me say that for the record just so that I am PERFECTLY CLEAR. I cannot fault any of the people involved as to how they behaved or what they did and I would like to take this opportunity to praise as well as thank them for their proffesionalism and the speed with which this was sorted out.
These allegations turned out to be as a result of people taking a reccuring joke of mine seriously and coupling it with misunderstanding my asking a question of a ref.
A joke of mine that I made several times while expressing how much I was looking forward to today and how overjoyed I was to be able to turn up to more lives this year as a standard player/monster rather than a ref.
A question that I asked of the ref to clarify the stats of the monster that I was about to be playing because I had misheard and wanted to be sure I was getting it right.
I cannot tell you how upset I am to discover that people would rather complain about this to someone official rather than calling me on it, or that a joke. A JOKE is taken so seriously that it warrents complaint. I am surely not inscrutable enough that people think I would be serious when I describe looking forward to beating the crap out of the members of a society that I love. People joke about wanting to pumch someone, leather someone, hit them with swords, smash their faces in, rape or even kill someone and those jokes are not taken seriously when some of those topics are REALLY serious or even offensive to many people.
I cannot tell you how upset I am that in society of friends we have to make a formal complaint rather than saying something like
"Spike, that joke was out of line and was quite upsetting,"
or
"Surely you don't mean that,"
or
"Dude, that's not like you are you OK?"
and as for asking a clarification from a ref. How else are you supposed to define what's going on if you misheard. Do I leave it and get the stats wrong, therefore potentially spoiling the adventure for EVERYONE concerned, ESPECIALLY players, or should I ask a question and get the facts right?
which is the right answer.
I am an ongoing system ref and tabletop ref as well as a roleplayer. Sometimes these situations require a display of aggression. The most common being that I am playing a character/monster that is quite aggressive. I am well aware that I am a big guy with a loud voice and (when I put my mind to it) a powerful presence. This is a tool that I as well as other refs have used to get a point accross and I am by no means alone in using these tools to get the job done. Does this mean that I am going to get complained about when I do this?
How about reffing situations when I see someone cheating or being unsafe. SOmetimes waiting until afterwards and getting the LARP ref to sort it out doesn't cut it. What if they hurt someone or themselves in the meantime or spoil several peoples game while the LARP rep is elsewhere. Both of these are situations that have come up, and both do sometimes need a loud voice to stop the situation developing further ie
"TIME STOP, THERE IS A CAR COMING, GET OFF THE ROAD,"
or
"TIME STOP, THAT IS UNSAFE, STOP IT,"
and
"TIME STOP< PERSON A WE NEED YOU OVER HERE NOW! TRADE WTIH ANOTHER MONSTER, now that was against the rules so why are you doing it?"
In the past, refs have been responsible for the facilities that they use, including rooms for tabletop and booked for live events so people need to be told off for leaving them in a state so this is another time where a display of aggression is appropriate when all else has failed to drive the message home. Fortunately the LARP reps have taken the responsibility for that one now so I don't ned to worry about it anymore, but in the past if the room had been left a tip it would have been the system refs that got it in the neck.
But it would seem that these things are now going to get me complained about. In a society of friends I must watch what I say. I can't afford to make jokes any more because people might take them seriously and complain about me. I can't afford to vent in the society for fear that people might take it seriously. I must guard myself. Guard my sense of humour and my opiinions in case omeone might get offended and complain.
It's all very well saying that I won't let this happen in the cold light of day. It's all very well saying "I will not change my sense of humour" or "I'm not going to stop telling people that they are wrong when I think that they are wrong," but secretly, deep down, I will.
Because it's not just the words that I say that will get me in to trouble and this is due to this immortal line.
"It's not what you said, it's how you said it,"
One mans tone of anger is another mans reasonable voice. One persons tone of joking is another person tone of sleaze or slime.
And you can't argue it, short of saying, "that's not what I meant," to which the responce is "Well that's what it sounded like and I want an apology,"
Words cannot express how upset I am over this. It literally crippled me. I nearly gave away my Live kit and donated my RPG books to the library. I nearly quit VIP and knocked the Lord of the Rings grip on the head. THis is not an exageration so please don't think I'm being melodramatic. The only reason that I didn't it because Madfae spent a significant period of time talking me down from that course of action.
That was how much this upset me.
I felt like I couldn't face people, I hid from them.
ME
I HID FROM THE MEMBERSHIP OF LURPS.
Because somethings that I had said while I assumed that I was amongst friends were taken in a non-friendly manner and suddenly I couldn't look people in the eye any more.
And if people don't feel that they can come and say to me "that Joke was innappropriate," or find me over intimidating, then what business do I have running activities or taking part in a society that sees me in this way.
I don't know who this person or persons were as (correctly) anonymity is used but isn't anyone else dissappointed that LURPS has to have a stringent complaints procedure?
I don't have much else to say but a couple of disclaimers.
1) Yes, I had a row with the LARP reps today. This was due to a completely SEPERATE incident and that has since been resolved. But for the record I want to say that that incident was COMPLETELY unrelated to what I am talking about here. Anyone who thinks or says that the two are connected is wrong.
2) I would like to take this opportnity to once again thank Madfae, Lentil and Felix (all online references) for their sensitivity, understanding and support over this matter. I would especially like to thank Madfae for preventing me from doing something that I would have later regretted.
3) I hope that the majority of people who are reading this agree with me. I am confident that what I am talking about here, is the actions of a couple of people and I do not wish to tarnish everyone with the same brush and that I am largely preaching to the converted.
4) THis post will not be cut, removed or edited so don't bother asking. I want this post to be read by as many people as possible.
Despite all of this I find that I still love this society. Despite the turmoil and the upset I still love it and will continue to work towatrds making it better.
But this hurts, it really does and it has changed LURPS for me for the worst and although I hope I will regain my original feelings towards it, for now the vision is somewhat tarnished.
Spike
Signing off
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